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literally creating the capacity for

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distant effect and from what we see

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these may be Schumann resonance related

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the Schumann resonance is the standing

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potential frequency patterning within

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the atmosphere which can be rung like a

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bell by lightning and actually the

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Schumann resonances are recorded by the

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US Geological Survey in Antarctica and

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parkfield California and a whole bunch

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of different places it's an interesting

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phenomenon you're talking about people

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having resonance one to the other well

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in fact if the if the Healey is a

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tunable Bell and the healer is a big

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bell that rings with harmonics the

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entrainment or the the the the

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determination of what frequencies that

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other Bell is going to be generating end

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up being controlled by the healer having

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an entrainment effect on the Healey I

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would suggest that this if this is in

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fact what our data show and it appears

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towards caution because what this would

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establish is connectivity not

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necessarily delivery of something and if

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and Bill doesn't talk we've got a

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connection but there's no communication

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there's nothing being delivered so I

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think that this may be a mechanism for

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connectivity at a distance but it may

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not be the delivery of the the healing

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phenomenon itself but just identifying

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the connection I think is useful and I

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think I have one minute left which gives

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five minutes for questions or no five

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minutes for questions excellent let me

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show you that actually do have

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references there's a couple pages of

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references there

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and again if you if you look on the

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first page you'll see my email q EEG I

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do quantitative EEG my name is j QE GJ @

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sbcglobal.net I'll be happy to forward

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you the powerpoint on this as well as a

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lot of other stuff if you email me you

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got to watch out and I hope your email

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box can take big files because i usually

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load up the email response oh you might

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be interested in this too so be well

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aware you know you might get 5 10 15

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mega byte size email reply so it's time

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for questions got one up here I will

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please model summary very briefly is my

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mind and brain

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not just this emergence regularly well

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we've got necessary to cgc field

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potential dynamics within and they

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they're not necessarily going to end up

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reporting any of those experiences to us

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afterwards one of the reasons I'm in the

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international brain research foundation

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is that in a series of three cases they

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had 12 recordings and somewhere along

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those 12 recordings blinded to the

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interpreter the person regained

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consciousness and I can see dynamics of

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DC present before they're conscious

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again and I was able to predict

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consciousness effectively blinded three

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times which got us a six million dollar

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congressional earmark to finish our last

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two months of last year so that the

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project is very well funded but DC field

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potentials alone without an interaction

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with a brain don't yield conscious

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awareness that's reported to us I can

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also point to people who have the DC

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coupling starting to happen but they're

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not awake yet they're not quite

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conscious but they will report

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experiences that it seems to me you're

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doing something considerably more modest

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you want to if you're talking about mind

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unconscious mind

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non-conscious yes and I think there's a

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large of variance within definition of

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terms which is why at the very beginning

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that i'm talking about intention which

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can be measured attention which can be

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measured and these phenomena are direct

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current field potentials I I can intend

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to move my finger and not move it not

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have any muscle tension change not have

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any position change at all and when I'm

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intending to move that finger I can tell

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that I'm intending to move it because

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the frontal lobe will light up with

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I can then quit intending without ever

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having done anything and you can tell

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when I quit intending and then I can

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intend to move it again and then quit

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intending to move it on off on off and

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you can see that in the in the DC field

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potentials and then I can eventually

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move it and and all that dynamic could

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be identified within the neural networks

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I use very distinct operational

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definitions of the terms and if they

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don't agree with your definitions that

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then we can talk about definitions but

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and I'm happy to be described as modest

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and that's usually not that that common

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a term for me i but but I'm happy to be

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described as that Jake I had to step out

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briefly so you may have already

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what are your thoughts on the on the

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suggestion by some that consciousness

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exists in even lower animals and even

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bacteria because of the fact that they

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do respond to external stimuli and some

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people define that so it gets the

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definition of mission you can identify

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consciousness and animals I've never

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tried to hook up electrodes to bacteria

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to see whether they're having these

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resonant phenomenon but it's it's

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potentially capable of being done you

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know lower lower animals well you know

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isn't that looking down the nose at

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other animals and what was it yesterday

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I heard something about well they don't

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consider people animals somehow I know

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what are we plants and minerals yeah

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yeah the actual definition of what

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constitutes what constitutes

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consciousness because it used to be

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believed that animals you know you know

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Cass cogs we're not conscious because

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they couldn't think yeah and so you know

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if you have it if you have an animal

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that was they can't think like humans I

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mean it's obviously conscious in

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perceiving his environment and

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everything so what do you thought yeah

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it's a about four years ago I posted a

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number of samples of EEG online and ask

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people to differentiate the cat from the

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guinea pig from the horse from the human

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and and I offered good cash reward for

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anybody could do it nobody even bothered

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to try I mean but it's there in the data

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you could differentiate one from the

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other if you really knew what you're

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looking at but all of them are conscious

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entities based on looking at the DC

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field potentials nesting and n gamma so

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using that operational definition of

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consciousness lower animals whatever the

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hell that is I don't know I hang out

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with people I don't know how about a

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you need to go you know him so all right